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Monday, September 05, 2005

Who Screwed Up?

When will we see this story running on TV3, TV1, RNZ and in the Herald? This is what I've suspected all along and our dutiful lazy media have done their usual appalling job of failing to question one word from the anti-Bush media of the US and UK.

Courtesy of the Washington Post via Silent Running.

Lets take a look at who wanted to get things moving, and who was dragging their feet.

Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state’s emergency operations center said Saturday.

The administration sought unified control over all local police and state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law.

The US has a federal political system. Any use of federal resources (with some exceptions in certain clearly deliniated circumstances) must be requested by State or local officials. If they don't ask for it, the national government can't do anything.

Any questions?

Posted by Adolf Fiinkensein | 9/05/2005 09:08:00 am


Blogger Ackers1 said...

So what exactly was FEMA set up to do?

9/05/2005 09:59:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's way too soon to be attributing blame. At present this is being indulged in mainly by the left but the right haven't been immune.

We don't have at present enough info on what actually happened to be pronouncing judgement. There will probably be plenty of blame to go around but it really is not productive to get into another round of Bush bashing.

9/05/2005 10:24:00 am  
Blogger Berend de Boer said...

None of the idiots on NZ, or outside the US seems to understand the federal system.

And it was Bush who urged full evacuation of New Orleans. But you won't hear that either.

The whole reporting if this makes me just sick.

9/05/2005 12:07:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The (current) President of the United States is not responsible for anything. That's what I have learned by reading this blog.

9/05/2005 12:14:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hugo Chavez of Venezuela has offered assistance. But you won't be hearing that on Fox.


9/05/2005 12:17:00 pm  
Blogger Ackers1 said...

No Berend you are the one who doesn't understand what went on here. How blind does one have to be to believe that the Feds were sitting there waiting for local authorities to ask for assistance and that somehow it was all the fault of lines of demarcation established through through the federal political system.

The National Response Plan was adopted by the Bush Administration in 2004 to establish
policies, procedures, and mechanisms for proactive Federal response to catastrophic events.


"In an Incident of National Significance, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in coordination with other Federal departments and agencies, initiates actions to prevent, prepare for, respond to, and recover from the incident. These actions are taken in conjunction with State, local, tribal, nongovernmental, and private-sector entities.

Upon this designation, DHS is the quarterback, and the federal government basically has carte blanche to do what it needs to do. Any excuses after that designation is made that state & local entities are acting to hinder federal or out-of-state or private activity, like we've been hearing, are total BS.

The LA Times editorial yesterday sums it up pretty well.

"PRESIDENT BUSH MADE LANDFALL on the Gulf Coast on Friday, four days after Hurricane Katrina. If the visit was designed to quell criticism of the administration's lethargic reaction to the catastrophe, it came too late: By now it is clear that the federal government's initial response, which has improved markedly in the last few days, fell somewhere between the criminally negligent and the pathetically feeble. Even the president acknowledged that it was unacceptable."

9/05/2005 12:48:00 pm  
Anonymous sock thief said...

ackers1, your certainty of opinion is admirable but I'm going to wait for a bit more evidence before making judgements about who's to blame.

Wapo reports - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301653_pf.html

that the federal disaster relief plan "advises state and local emergency managers not to expect federal aid for 72 to 96 hours, and base their own preparedness efforts on the need to be self-sufficient for at least that period."

So federal relief has actually been arriving within the planed time frame. So it may be that the Democratic Governor may have some explaining.

9/05/2005 12:59:00 pm  
Anonymous tincanman said...

ackers1: If you read more than the first page of that document you have posted you will come across this section, under the responsibilities of the State/Local/Tribal government. It says: Requests Federal assistance when it becomes clear that State or tribal capabilities will be insufficient or have been exceeded or exhausted.

Why was the American Civil War fought? Just to take it back a few steps. Primarily to prevent the intervention of the Federal Government at will in the State governments. To quote: The war of Northern Aggression (US Civil War) was fought over states rights. The northern states were trying to impose laws on the southern states in the guise of Federal authority. The US Constitution makes no provision for this sort of behavior and just as they did in 1776 free citizens attempted to break away from the tyrannical rule of a distant Gov't..

This still holds true. States in the United States are more independant than we can readily comprehend. For the Federal government to willy-nilly involve themselves in the governance of a State would be a serious assault on what they consider to be State rights. Thus, the State MUST request aid, otherwise the Federal government cannot provide it.

9/05/2005 01:07:00 pm  
Blogger Berend de Boer said...

ackerks1, if it wasn't Bush who had insisted on mandatory evacuation (first time ever they had a mandatory evacuation), many more would have been dead.

9/05/2005 01:19:00 pm  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

The lefties come out of nowhere!

Bush is indeed responsible for his actions, which includes asking the LA Governor to evacuate the city of New Orleans during the weekend. Of course N.O. officials seemed to have problems comprehending 'evacuate', instead suggesting people without transport gather in the middle of the city in a building without stored food, long-term sanitation facilities, or backup power generators.

Yet again lefties wish to turn this into a partisan political attack in support of their comrades in the US Democratic Party, rather than understand and address the initial problem.

9/05/2005 01:29:00 pm  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

Honestly, mainstream lefties these days are as screwed in the head as the non-mainstream anti-Clinton conspiracy nuts were in the mid-late 90's.

9/05/2005 01:30:00 pm  
Blogger Ackers1 said...


Note the date.

The referenced state declaration of emergency was apparently declared on August 26th, that is, the Friday before landfall.

States of emergency had been declared on both the state and federal level before the hurricane hit and at the state's request the president had given FEMA plenary powers to "identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency."

9/05/2005 01:39:00 pm  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

The Governor of Louisiana herself has admitted Bush was the originator of the compulsory evacuation order (unless her quote was completely fabricated of).

But regardless, I'm more interested about what is happening. There will be plenty of time to blame people later on.

9/05/2005 01:49:00 pm  
Anonymous tincanman said...

Then go look at what she actually requested.

Funding to IHP is for individuals to recover property damage. In every case, the disaster victim must register for assistance and establish eligibility.

Public Assistance which is to fund the repair, restoration, reconstruction, or replacement of a public facility or infrastructure, which is damaged or destroyed by a disaster

Hazard Mitigation which is a preventative / constructive funding.

None of those are helping the people right now. It all applies retroactively, short of Hazard Mitigation which is preventative, not curative. So her request is bollocks basically.

This reminds me of Acidman's post about the $10.00 bag of ice. Gaak.

9/05/2005 01:59:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even though I am and have always been a Bush supporter (both of them)I am feeling a little uneasy at the coverage of this Questions like why when there was advance warning the whole place wasnt evacuated There were too many black faces in the crowd at the stadium fuelling the racist bit
Having spent some time in New Orleans it was a great place and will be sad if it cant be rebuilt

9/05/2005 01:59:00 pm  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

gd - if BBC World News is to be believed, the local cops are a bunch of racists KKKers straight out of the 1950's.

9/05/2005 02:06:00 pm  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

Of course N.O. has been threatened by hurricans and flooding for the entirety of its existence - they should have had a proper evacuation plan for car-less people.

9/05/2005 02:09:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would hate to see what would happen in the event of another terrorist attack. They don't seem to have learned anything.

9/05/2005 02:13:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember gd that 2/3 of N.O population is black. So it's not suprising that you'll see more black faces on MSM


9/05/2005 05:43:00 pm  

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