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Friday, September 30, 2005

So what is in the soon-to-be-released Abu Ghraib material?

Here's what Idiot of NRT is quoting:
"[the acts] can only be described as blatantly sadistic, cruel and inhuman" - Donald Rumsfeld

"The American public needs to understand we're talking about rape and murder here. We're not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience... We're talking about rape and murder -- and some very serious charges." - Senator Lindsey Graham

"The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. The worst about all of them is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking..." - Seymour Hersh
Note Idiot kindly refers to us as 'the sewer' for posting this earlier. Here's Idiot manufacturing our reason for doing so:
Because obviously, that makes it all OK. You really have to love these guys...
I'm glad that Idiot has suddenly decided justice is an important issue. However I am not glad such "liberals" are trying to own the issue of military justice when they are the very same people advocating leniency in domestic law and order policies. In my opinion a soldier who tortures a prisoner should at the very least be thrown in the slammer, then later kicked out of the military with a dishonourable discharge. One who rapes a prisoner should be executed or thrown in jail for life. But then you'll often find righties take a much more serious tone towards such matters. If new material arises proving US soldiers at Abu Ghraib committed offences as described by Senator Graham then they should be dealt with harshly as a matter of justice and as a matter of military discipline. But I suspect Idiot's tone of offense is more to do with his politics than abstract concerns about justice - at least I've yet to see him post substantial criticisms of terrorist atrocities in Iraq. To him when yet another suicide bomber massacres 50 Iraqi Police recruits it is not a sign of the essential debasement of the Al Qaeda-driven insurgency, rather it is a sign of US uncompetence and failure.

Readers, please correct me if you have gained a different impression from reading No Right Turn over the last year or so.

UPDATE: Here is what the NY Times says is in the unreleased photos and video:
Judge Hellerstein's decision came in a 2003 suit under the Freedom of Information Act by the American Civil Liberties Union. It covers the release of 74 photographs and three videotapes that, according to the ruling, show Iraqi detainees in Abu Ghraib forced into lewd, degrading positions. The photographs were on a CD given to army investigators last year by Specialist Joseph M. Darby, a reservist posted at the prison.
So who's in the sewer again?

Posted by Antarctic Lemur | 9/30/2005 08:12:00 pm


Blogger Keith said...

"forced into lewd and degrading positions" eh....

Daniel Perle should have been so lucky.

9/30/2005 09:45:00 pm  
Blogger Psycho Milt said...

So you feel the Abu Ghraib guards are comparable with Daniel Perle's killers, Keith? I wouldn't have gone that far.

9/30/2005 09:56:00 pm  
Blogger Chefen said...

Well, sewer is a bit strong coming from the NZ wholesaler of Bile & Vitriol from Fisk & Co.

9/30/2005 11:48:00 pm  
Blogger Ackers1 said...

It would of course be interesting to line up Fisk on one side and your lot from the National Review Fox et al and see who has been the most consistently accurate over the last few years.

10/01/2005 08:21:00 am  
Blogger Chris said...

I was listening to Air America a few weeks ago and the hostess said that the new revelations concern rape, and even the rape of children, if such things are fathomable. (it was a while ago but I am certain that is what she said).

10/01/2005 01:20:00 pm  

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