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Friday, September 09, 2005

Outright Lies #9

The Greens are claiming the EB brochures are filled with outright lies. I'm having a look at the claims, one by one, to see how the EB may have formed their opinion.

Outright Lies #9: Block construction of vital new roads with tortuous RMA regulations.

Lets be clear. The RMA does not block construction of any new roads. What it does do is provide for a mechanism for people to complain so they can block the construction of new roads. The Greens no doubt see supporting the RMA as vital to our democracy. Its a pity they don't see criticism of their policies as vital to our democracy.

The Greens also have a history of blocking any reforms to the RMA where they view developers will gain any advantage. As more people complain about Wind farms being erected in their backyard, it remains to be seen how far the Greens support individuals property rights to block new roads, but will become frustrated as the same people then block the construction of renewable energy sources that benefit the "greater good". It is unfair to blame the tortuous RMA act on the Greens, but it is clear they support its continued existence.

Verdict: Guilty by association.

Posted by ZenTiger | 9/09/2005 01:42:00 pm


Blogger Tane said...


The key sentence here is "...it remains to be seen how far the Greens support individuals property rights to block new roads...".

As far as I know (I'm still new to the party) the Green Party hasn't used the RMA to block any roads. Individuals may have done so, but the party has not.

You've outlined the Green position, that the RMA is there to give all parties a voice, and while we would like windfarms to go ahead we respect the right of locals to halt them. We may well prove to be hypocritical over this at some point in the future, but as best I know, we haven't done this yet.

I think "Guilty by association" is a bit premature to say the least.

9/09/2005 02:19:00 pm  
Blogger ZenTiger said...

Thanks for the comment Tane. I'll take up the challenge and review the actions of the Greens re their part in the RMA ammedment process, after I complete the first pass on the EB brochure.

9/09/2005 02:40:00 pm  
Blogger Tane said...

You're a brave man. Or a driven one.

Are we really that evil...?

Ummmm, on second thoughts, don't answer that.

9/09/2005 04:09:00 pm  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

Is there more ?! The Frogs are getting a whipping today. Need an index for DPF to link to.

9/09/2005 04:21:00 pm  
Blogger Tane said...


Who's whipping us? I don't feel any pain yet.

Do you mean the Herald editorial, which had a go at everyone, including us?

9/09/2005 04:37:00 pm  
Blogger ZenTiger said...

TANE: This is not about the Greens being evil, I've just decided to have a look at what the EB said that the MSM have picked up as statements that are, from the blog comments, all considered lies.

Its looking to me like typical politics - policy implementation never satisfies every-one, and the critical analysis EB offers up of Greens policy may be refuted, but looking at it, I think they deserve more than the public's quick acceptance of the "outright lies" sound bites coming from the Green Party.

AL: I'll publish a single summary post at the end, with a link to the individual posts. Hope I haven't cluttered up the blog. Maybe move the Doone Index to the top...

TANE: I agree. The Greens are getting of lightly.

Angry? You haven't seen me when I'm angry.

9/09/2005 04:48:00 pm  

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