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Wednesday, September 07, 2005

Louisiana governor wanted 24 hours to think about it

The Mayor wanted a clear line of authority established. The Governor wanted 24 hours to think about it:
He [President Bush] called me in that office after that. And he said, “Mr. Mayor, I offered two options to the governor.” I said — and I don’t remember exactly what. There were two options. I was ready to move today. The governor said she needed 24 hours to make a decision.

S. O’BRIEN: You’re telling me the president told you the governor said she needed 24 hours to make a decision?

NAGIN: Yes.

S. O’BRIEN: Regarding what? Bringing troops in?

NAGIN: Whatever they had discussed. As far as what the — I was abdicating a clear chain of command, so that we could get resources flowing in the right places.

S. O’BRIEN: And the governor said no.

NAGIN: She said that she needed 24 hours to make a decision. It would have been great if we could of left Air Force One, walked outside, and told the world that we had this all worked out. It didn’t happen, and more people died.
[I think he meant 'advocating']

Clearly this Governor is completely incompetent.

Now the question is whether Bush could simply have ignored her and sent the troops in regardless.

Posted by Antarctic Lemur | 9/07/2005 02:24:00 am

21 Comments:

Blogger Peter Metcalfe said...

He would have to invoke the Insurrection Act which hasn't been used since the Civil War. If he does, I can hear the cries about "dictatorship!"

9/07/2005 02:59:00 am  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

If that is the case then it will not be in a paper near you. Couldn't give Bush a break now could we! That would interfere with getting a Dem elected in 08...

9/07/2005 03:42:00 am  
Blogger Chefen said...

I see Hillary is calling for an investigation. I bet she won't be happy when the recommendations are basically to better restate city and state responsibilities to manage the first two or three days and reducing FEMA's bloat to avoid buck passing and confusion. I think most of those having a crack at W really want the (federal) government to have more intrusive power over states, they just don't want W having it.

9/07/2005 04:13:00 am  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

There is a theme amongst those blaming him for everything: somehow the Federal Government is or should be responsible for everything.

But the other dominant theme is pure Bush-bashing, as I see whenever I watch BBC World. To them, anything is a legitimate criticism of Bush. Yesterday their idea of 'news' was to play a clip of a retired couple (who'd had their house flattened, didn't have house insurance and hadn't evacuated) blaming Bush for putting reconstruction money into Iraq but not into New Orleans.

Yep. What a great 'news' channel. At least Fox plays near-continuous live footage from its roving reporters. The BBC must have literally (1) gone out of their way to interview this couple and (2) ignored other more informational items to broadcast it around the world.

9/07/2005 05:00:00 am  
Blogger Chefen said...

Yeah well check this out. For a Swedish rag the big news is Michael Moore posting something to his website. I mean, they even put it in the "World" section. News??? Svenska Dagbladet isn't even a tabloid!

9/07/2005 05:08:00 am  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

You should have a warning notice : I don't want to see Fat Mikes chubby mug at this time of the morning. That's almost as bad as imagining Keith Locke running naked if Hide wins Epsom.

9/07/2005 05:32:00 am  
Blogger Ackers1 said...

You should know the amnswer to that one AL. I'm really surprised you are all still sitting here putting out this line that they had to wait for the state to ask for help. The fact that a state of emergency had been declared at both state and federal levels and the statutory role of FEMA within the DHS means it was never an issue. It's laughable to think if this was the result of a terrorist act you would still be promulgating the same line. How quickly you have all forgotten what the world could see with their own eyes. Even conservatives were outraged at the feeble federal response to the unfolding tragedy. I mean have a look at the guy who heads up FEMA for gods sakes and how he got the job. It's not a matter of liberal or conservative it's a matter of competence. What qualifications were required for top slots in the Bush administration's FEMA? You guessed it. Working on Bush-Cheney's campaign. As you will remember, this was largely how the American contingent of the Iraq CPA leadership was drafted as well. It's terrible that many hundreds of lives may have been lost because the administration did not take this department seriously enough to encourage the hiring of those with real emergency management experience.

9/07/2005 08:16:00 am  
Anonymous Ryan said...

This comes as no surprise to me at all. The democratic governor, Blanco, looked all over the place when I saw her in TV interviews.

I have been very impressed with the N.O. mayor Nagin, and wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with expanded responsibities.

This is a a very telling interview.

9/07/2005 08:55:00 am  
Blogger Berend de Boer said...

don't worry ackers1, we do not hold lefties responsible for knowing their facts.

And even that is Bush's fault.

9/07/2005 09:16:00 am  
Blogger Ackers1 said...

Chefen, I think you will find that most of those complaining would simply have liked to see the needs of those people addressed as quickly as possible. The very nature of a catastrophe of this size means that local and state resources are going to be competely inadequate and overwhelmed. It was the clear duty and responsibility of the federal government to be in there pre and post disaster with all the resources at their command.
All that was required from Bush was to show some real leadership and that he manifestly failed to do.

His mum's doing her bit though. Very funny audio of comments she made at a relief centre in Houston.

http://www.discourse.net/archives/2005/09/the_modern_let_them_eat_cake_moment.html

9/07/2005 09:23:00 am  
Blogger Ackers1 said...

If you could counter fact with fact Berend that would be a surprise.

9/07/2005 09:49:00 am  
Anonymous tincanman said...

Worthwhile reading here. It's all about tribes.

9/07/2005 10:18:00 am  
Blogger Ackers1 said...

A far better summary is Paul Kelly in this morning's Australian. A brilliant summation by a much respected columnist who can by no stretch of the imagination be tarred as a leftist.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,16515952%255E12250,00.html

9/07/2005 10:44:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a fact from Berend, that's not his strong suit.

9/07/2005 12:07:00 pm  
Blogger Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Anonymous, if that's the best you can do, don't bother coming back.

9/07/2005 12:52:00 pm  
Anonymous tincanman said...

You're right Ackers. Looking at his record he is anti Bush and pro almost anything akin to Labour in almost all his writings online. By no stretch of the imagination can we call him a lefty.

Btw. Reading about anchor tags will be useful to you, as it makes it easier to follow the 'reference' material you wish to include.

9/07/2005 02:13:00 pm  
Anonymous tincanman said...

But, it is difficult to judge as there seems to be no Googleable reference to what he stands for.

9/07/2005 02:16:00 pm  
Blogger Ackers1 said...

The reason it's difficult to judge tincanman is because he doesn't automatically take a left or right position on issues. I don't always agree with Kelly, he is after all the senior columnist for a Murdoch paper! But all you have to do in this instance is read what he says and either agree with it or not. Why try to put him into an ideological box before you decide whether you can accept what he has to say?

9/07/2005 02:31:00 pm  
Anonymous tincanman said...

Right, and from what I've commented here, I don't agree with him. Simple as that. I take umbrage at the fact that the vast majority of people want to blame President Bush for everything that goes wrong when culpability clearly extends much further than that. It's as if it has been decided that he is the devil and that everything is his fault with little consideration for the truth. And no, I don't particularly like him, but this rabid decend into "Bush bad bad bad McBurton Hitler Blah" is just distateful and disgusting.

This is another interesting slant on Katrina as well, looking at the welfare mentality and how that has caused this in part.

9/07/2005 02:35:00 pm  
Blogger Ackers1 said...

If you can call America a welfare state then god knows how that logic transposes to a modern European state and the depths of barbarism they would descend to given similar circumstances.....

9/07/2005 03:29:00 pm  
Anonymous tincanman said...

Wait, this is the selfsame Europe where police do not venture into certain areas for fear of reprisal by the fundamentalist immigrants? That is in France, isn't it? (Was the word I just got gelpud?)

9/07/2005 03:45:00 pm  

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