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Friday, June 24, 2005

Responsibility Just Left

Jordan Carter at Just Left is musing on the nature of responsibility.
...wondering why people who want more money in their pockets always end up asking the government. They either want a tax cut, or a benefit increase, or a pension increase etc.

Why don't people take more responsibility for their own state, and that of their communities?

If you're in a job and you want more money, bargain with your boss.
This has generated a bit of debate, worth a read by following the above link.

I mention it here because I am incredulous (11 on the 1 to 10 scale) Jordan couldn't quite see the difference between a beneficiary asking for more money and a worker "asking for a tax cut". Indeed, he goes on to say, why ask the government, when you can ask your boss for more money!

Its quite simple. A person with a job is not asking for a handout from the government, they are asking to hand over less. There is a world of difference in that position. Need I say more?

Posted by ZenTiger | 6/24/2005 04:48:00 pm


Blogger Lucyna said...

You'd think not.

6/24/2005 05:05:00 pm  
Blogger Murray said...

The only real question is why the hell do you read the crap that the propaganda commissar spouts?

Don't feed the trolls!

6/24/2005 05:18:00 pm  
Blogger Lucyna said...

To understand them, Murray. It does tend to get a bit much after a while, though.

6/24/2005 05:25:00 pm  
Blogger ZenTiger said...

Well, my top 100 quotes come in handy Murray:

11. "What we've got here is failure to communicate," "Cool Hand Luke," 1967.

(But I need the practice)

29. "You can't handle the truth!", "A Few Good Men," 1992.

(I just like saying that.)

50. "Houston, we have a problem," "Apollo 13," 1995.

(My civil duty to point it out to the Labourites)

51. "You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?", "Dirty Harry," 1971.

(I'm basically optimistic)

58. "Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer," "The Godfather Part II," 1974.

(Sounds like damn good advice)

6/24/2005 05:26:00 pm  
Blogger Whaleoil said...

Typical socialist bs...ask the boss...if any employees asked me for a pay raise, my response would be along the lines of what further benefit of their labour will I receive for this increase?, what value are they adding to my business to justify the raise?

I find the fact the gummint has nicked an unexpected $500 million more is repulsive and nothing more than legalized highway robbery. To over tax the population to the extent this government has is unethical and down right theft....then to have drop kicks like Jordan pontificate is just the icing on the cake.

6/24/2005 05:53:00 pm  
Blogger Paul said...

Well, given that it seems as though the Government is my boss, I feel inlcined to ask the "boss" for more ... by way of tax cuts. A circular arguement by Jordan I guess.

6/24/2005 06:31:00 pm  
Blogger Too Right said...

Unbelievable that Jordan would even blog on this. He is so out of touch with how wealth is created. He like the rest of the Labour mob are still in denial that there has been a sea change. The majority want them out and PDQ. There is no hope they will turn it around, the longer they delay the greater the odium and ridicule will be heaped apon them.
Wondering why people don't take more responsibility? Huh? Where TF has he been - He may be a chief propangandist but no-one on his side expected him to believe the bullshit they pumped out. Labour is not for personal responsibility - it is for creating state dependents and state dependence. That is how they rule. The last thing they want is people thinking and doing things for themselves. If that happened what would be the role of the State?

If the State took less - there would be more to go around. The economy would grow. Give a capitalist a dollar and they will aim to grow it to $1.20. Give the Government a dollar, they will spend 20 cents collecting it and another 20 cents spending it in some scheme. Nett minimum reduction in national wealth 40 percent. Hence you give them simple big jobs. Running the Police, and the Courts.

6/24/2005 09:45:00 pm  

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