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Monday, June 27, 2005

Marxist's Maori Plan

Straight from SocialistWorld (amazing what you find on the web):

Socialism and the struggle for Maori liberation
While marxists recognise the status of Maori as an oppressed nation with a long history of struggle against imperialism, the fact is that in Aotearoa/NZ today there exist (as the name indicates) at least two distinct nationalities inhabiting a common territory. In these circumstances the demand for Maori tribes or iwi to be given control over such an important resource as the foreshore and seabed can only be progressive if it matched with a demand for the overthrow of capitalism. Otherwise it will prove to be nothing more than a recipe for racial segregation and economic apartheid - not to mention the fact that no capitalist government could never concede to such a demand since it would render their own economic position completely untenable.

Some ultra-left groups try to justify their blanket support for Maori separatism by referring to Lenin, who made a distinction between the nationalism of the oppressor and the nationalism of the oppressed nations - one completely reactionary, the other one progressive. However the starting point for Lenin and the Bolsheviks in supporting the right of oppressed nations to political and economic separation or self-determination was the need for international working class unity in the struggle against capitalism, which is the ultimate source of all political, racial and economic inequality. From this it followed that the Bolshevik’s did not support self-determination as a viable strategy in all places and at all times.
That is why in the case of Aotearoa/NZ, marxists must reject not only unity with the capitalist politicians but also with the so-called “corporate warriors” within Maoridom. Instead we need to put forward an independent working-class program, based on the establishment of a bi-national, socialist republic of Aotearoa, with representatives of Maori and non-Maori working class or community organisations given an equal say in decisions affecting the use of valuable economic resources such as the foreshore and seabed. To do this we need Maori and Pakeha workers to break with their capitalist leaders and come together to form a new mass workers¹ party, while reserving the right for Maori to organise independently within such a broad political formation. Only through coming together in a revolutionary fight to change society will it be possible to achieve genuine political, economic and cultural liberation.

Posted by Lucia Maria | 6/27/2005 04:25:00 pm


Blogger ZenTiger said...

There does seem to be a certain subtext there, or am I reading too much into this?

6/27/2005 04:32:00 pm  
Blogger t selwyn said...

And always the dream: a mass workers movement to destroy capitalism. Never give up on that one. Anything that comes along might be turned into a reason for people to support overthrowing capitalism. You have to laugh. Well, we should, but if the govt. has plans to further reduce that class of people called homeowners so they are a minority, and people dependent on renting and locked out of the ownership game through various policies become the majority then policies like that would tend to appeal. I think the home ownership rate has slipped from 70%+ to 66% recently. That does not bode well. Capitalism "works" best when everyone is a capitalist rather than just a few.

6/27/2005 05:40:00 pm  
Blogger Lucyna said...

I agree with you on "Capitalism "works" best when everyone is a capitalist rather than just a few". The only way to achieve that is a smaller government - and an education system free of controls.

6/27/2005 05:44:00 pm  
Blogger Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Haere mai, e hoa. Haere mai ki te kai o te tutae hoiho. How many different ways are ther to spell horse shit?

6/27/2005 05:47:00 pm  
Blogger Lucyna said...


6/27/2005 06:24:00 pm  
Blogger Ackers1 said...

Can you explain what an education system 'free of controls' is Lucyna?

I'd like to think that small government is the result of an electorate voting in a conservative or right wing administration but if the experience of the Bush administration is anything to go by its all just smoke and mirrors and the conservative claim to representing "small government" is just another furphy they expect us to be stupid enough to believe.

"The Republican party is simply not interested in small government now," says Brian Riedl, a budget analyst at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. "They're worse than the Democrats they replaced."

The upshot: Federal spending per household is above $20,000 this year - a level not seen since World War II caused military spending to surge. This time, military spending is again a big factor, but accounts for less than half of recent increases, the Heritage Foundation says."

So there you go. You can almost guarantee your fellow right wing bloggers in the US are propogating the same myth about small government. The reality as we see in every western democracy you care to name is slightly different to the myth being put forth.

6/27/2005 07:37:00 pm  
Blogger Kimble said...

The Right Wing bloggers are actually saying that Bush has been the most spendy Republican ever, and they dont like it.

You are full of shit, ackers. Just because the President is a spend-happy Republican doesnt mean that all conservatives have suddenly changed their opinion on limited government.

6/27/2005 07:55:00 pm  
Blogger Lucyna said...

Ackers1, go read The Underground History of American Education

6/27/2005 08:02:00 pm  
Blogger Ackers1 said...

Perhaps you can provide me with a taster Lucyna and summarise his thesis and how this can be best applied in contemporary Western society. I'm happy to read the book and have found a complete transcript online. I suspect I will find much that I agree with.

What I'm interested to know is why you think a change of Government in NZ will make a substantive change to the education system there. Whatever changes a National Government will make will I suspect be mere tinkerings with the model that has been in place since universal free education was introduced. I'm sure we are all products of said system and equally sure we are relatively satisfied with the outcome. I'm also pretty sure we look upon the youth of today with some degree of suspicion and naturally enough blame an education system we are sure is failing them. I wonder how much of this is something every generation does and how much their perceived failings are a product of the education system or simply a sympton of the usual miscomprehension between generations.

6/27/2005 09:14:00 pm  
Blogger Lucyna said...

Very easy, Ackers1 - homeschool, which is possible now - or remove state control of curiculums and state funding of schooling and compulsory attendance. Reason being that control of schools by the state dumbs-down students. The book explains all this in far greater detail.

I don't think a change in gov't will do anything in this regard.

6/27/2005 09:25:00 pm  
Blogger Paul said...

What a load of bunkum. Despite the myths that surround the Treaty, why do romanticists continue to print that garbage. There is a wee thing called the rule of law. Love it or hate it, like it or not pigment does not have a part in its application. Simple really.

6/27/2005 10:54:00 pm  
Blogger ZenTiger said...

Yes, but I think it makes the point that if you lift a few rocks you find a few slimy wormy things.

"Capitalism works best when everyone a capitalist" - so did you pick up a few Feltex shares then? I think Cullen was recommending getting into the market and snaffling a few blue chip stocks.

6/28/2005 01:38:00 am  
Blogger ZenTiger said...

..and that's pulled the rug from under a few feet!

6/28/2005 01:39:00 am  
Blogger t selwyn said...

Maybe that should be: Speculation works best when everyone is a speculator!

Feltex, Tranzrail... small shareholders, small amounts of information, "projections" etc.

6/28/2005 01:44:00 am  
Blogger Gman said...

I think "Gówno prawda!!!" is the phrase you're looking for.

I was engaged to a Pole.


6/28/2005 08:02:00 pm  
Blogger Lucyna said...

Prawda is "true" or "truth", though, Gman. Is that a real Polish phrase?

I had to look up horse shit, since it's not a phrase I used in my childhood. I'm bilingual, but very rusty. Glad you recognised the language. And I'm glad I recognised "prawda".

I know "kon" is horse, and I think "konia" is belonging to horse.

6/28/2005 08:09:00 pm  

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