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Friday, November 18, 2005


The posts on Louis Freeh and the WP shells have reminded me of the massacre-by-fire at Waco.

After that fiasco, the FBI admitted it used two "pyrotechnic" devices during the initial stage of its assault on the Branch Davidian compound. The fire which killed many of the Branch Davidians started several hours later and was supposedly not related to the use of these devices.

The real scandal was the FBI repressing the fact they had used anything capable of starting a fire. Fortunately the Texas Rangers had possession of the evidence, and they allowed a documentary-maker to photograph two canisters later identified as 40mm M651 CS grenades. I can't find a site on the Internet describing the incendiary material used in these grenades, but it is presumedly WP or Magnesium.

Posted by Antarctic Lemur | 11/18/2005 05:42:00 pm


Blogger Chefen said...

Do CS rounds have any incendiary in them at all?

11/18/2005 11:44:00 pm  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

Well it must have something designed to burn relatively slowly.

But as I said - there is remarkably little tech info available.

11/19/2005 12:07:00 am  
Blogger Chefen said...

I thought the CS grenade was just a CS gas disperser. I don't think anything needs to burn to produce it, since it's actually a fine powder. If I understand it right then there is a pressurised charge (nitrogen?) that blows the powder out. But with Waco who knows what else they chucked in there.

11/19/2005 12:19:00 am  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

Nope, these grenades are 40mm shells fired from a grenade launcher and they have some sort of fire-creating capability. Thus the scandal when the FBI finally admitted it had used them.

But you're right - the normal CS grenades are just dispensers.

11/19/2005 12:20:00 pm  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

'rounds', not 'shells'.

11/19/2005 12:57:00 pm  

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