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Monday, October 31, 2005

Vic. students can blame Labour

Vic. Uni. wants to raise student fees. The students, naturally, are outraged.
The plan will see a 5% increase across all undergraduate topics and an increase of 10% for all humanities subjects including English and philosophy as well as education.
Massey and two other universities are seeking a fee increase of more than 5% for next year.
Massey University is one of the providers applying for a 10% rise across all under graduate subjects
And now for a little gloating.

In July this year Jordan Carter wrote a post under the heading "Student Support".He even posted a pretty picture which said, inter alia, "Cap Tuition Fees". It was about the time Labour announced its student loan bribe. I took offence to Jordan's and Labour's ideas. I commented thus
You've done economics Jordan. So you might understand this.

If no interest results in increased tertiary numbers (which it will) how can:

1. The institutions cope considering they are stretched now?;
2. Fees remain capped considering demand for courses via increased numbers (see above) will exceed supply?;
3. Any government keep pace considering that Labour has now agreed to foot the bill, and therefore turning higher education into an entitlement, so making successive governments primarily responsible for isolating academia from normal consumer pressure by shielding most students (and their parents) from the true cost of higher education?.

By the way, that's why universities will keep ratcheting up tuition fees beyond what any middle class family can reasonably afford (despite your 'capped' protestations) to pay - because they know taxpayers stand ready to take up the slack.
Jordan replied
Through higher investment in tertiary education, is the shower answer. Education should be an entitlement. It's a right, not a privilege, as the old lefty saying goes.

So you expand the sector, fund more places, etc - and more people are studying as a result, which is a good thing.

That said, tertiary participation rates are already very high in New Zealand, so there is limited scope for them to increase. What this will do is make life easier for those who do go. And that is no bad thing.
Now Vic. is saying it can't cope with the strain and fees are remaining anything but capped, as I predicted. Jordan will undoubtedly say the answer is to tax people more and pile more money into the sector to reduce the costs.

Away I go, over to the brick wall - just over there. Must beat head against it. Must beat head against it. Must beat head against it.
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Posted by Gooner | 10/31/2005 11:20:00 PM


Blogger Ashley Clarkson said...

I don't mind if they put up my fees - it's a market, they're a business. It's their right to put them up.

11/01/2005 08:49:00 AM  
Blogger Bren said...

If the tertiary insitutions are truly strained then why are Victoria and Otago running advertising campaigns?

Where's the need?

11/01/2005 11:36:00 AM  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

Uni funding is tied to "bums on seats". The unis without large local populations need to advertise outside of their region to gain enough new enrollees to support the present level of academic programmes.

Simple and inevitable consequence of the Government providing funding almost entirely linked to whomever the Uni signs up: budgets have over time become directly linked to maintaining high enrollments.

11/01/2005 02:38:00 PM  
Blogger Adolf Fiinkensein said...

There's a feeding frenzy of lefties on this subject over at farrar's place.

11/01/2005 02:56:00 PM  
Blogger Gooner said...

The simple fact is I told Carter this yonks ago. I agree with Ashley. For Labour to maintain there will be 'capped fees' and for everyone to fall for it is laughable.

11/01/2005 04:52:00 PM  

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