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Friday, October 07, 2005

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Frog blog is dedicating themselves to gutter politics. And they love to have a bet both ways. Just don't mix the logic in the same post, and no-one will notice.

They hate that Dunne doesn't agree with their ideology. He obviously hates the environment. Even though he's spent years in parliament, often at odds with their various "environmental" bills and policies - you know: Same sex marriages, capital gains tax, legalisation of dope, same sex couples adopting children, preventing property rights being enshrined in the bill of rights, blocking hydro power proposals, criminalising parents for smacking as a method to catch abusers, and so on, they have no idea why he thinks the Greens are scary! Green's, its plain to see you love the environment with these policies, and that you have sound reasons for promoting these policies, but give other people some respect for holding a different opinion, without calling them petty or selfish.
For goodness sake, at least our bottom-line was a matter of a principled policy stance, not a petty, petulant, personal animosity.
And don't expect your avowed political foes to present a detailed list of reasons as to why they find you scary. Weren't you listening for the last few years?

So whilst the Greens are irked Dunne doesn't even want to talk to Labour if he is forced to talk to the Greens (via plumb cabinet posts), they are now getting righteous over Brash talking to the Maori Party.

Silly National, they’ll talk with any-one. If the EB call them and ask to talk, they will. Then the Greens can accuse them of being in the pockets of the EB.

Now they are talking with Maori. Terrible concept, this talking stuff. The Greens were ready to sit back and accuse National of racism and creating division with Maori, and here they are talking. Why can't they be more like Dunne? No problem, maybe Frog can spin that into a belated attempt by National to take power? Yes, that’s it. Let’s suggest he’s shady and a sore loser and weave in a conspiracy theory to take power:
"Also, isn’t Don Brash going to start looking like a rather shady sore loser if, on the one hand, he’s conceded the election but, on the other, he’s still trying to form his own government?"
So, do the Greens rather Dunne drops his principles and talk, and National make a principled stand and refuse to talk?

And how dare Dunne hold the Labour party to ransom. That's the Greens job, according to Rod Donald:
Labour won't always do what's right...We need to strengthen Labour's resolve, steer them in the right direction, and, on occasions, slam on the brakes to get them back on track.
Not Dunne's track. The Greens track. Unfortunately, it seems to be powered by hot air.
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Posted by ZenTiger | 10/07/2005 12:31:00 PM

5 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

zen..i never realised there was a minister of plumbing..

(yours in the pursuit of accuracyliteracy)

phil(whoar.co.nz)

10/07/2005 01:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Gary said...

Your observations do not surprise me, Zen. I have realised for some time now that the Greens' attitude is one of holier-than-thou. They have a right to set one lot of rules for others, and a different one for themselves. That is because they can trust themselves, for they fight the good fight, not following the greed and self-interest as all others do. (To be fair, other parties/supporters can be hypocritical like this too. Its just that the Greens are so much better at it.)

As far as National talking to the Maori Party, I would hope that all parties continue some form of discussion on issues. Perhaps it would be more acceptable for Don to talk to the Maori Party if he was to share a joint with them?

10/07/2005 01:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

zen..did you see the commenter at frog who argued that your comments were an exercise in irony...i assured him they are not...:)

phil(whoar.co.nz)

10/07/2005 02:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two comments, neither of which deals with the crux of the post. Seems phule is back in good form after an electoral humiliation (remember how the greens were going to get 10% but only ended barely getting half that?)

Kimble

10/07/2005 02:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i know..and no nandor..i'm still bruised..

phil(whoar.co.nz0

10/07/2005 05:07:00 PM  

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