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Wednesday, September 28, 2005

Preventing natural resource extraction

Here's a timely example of the barriers erected in NZ to extracting resources from the ground:
"We've got visible gold in quartz on the surface of the land. It's nice to find it so quickly, but it's early days for us," company spokesman Ken Banks said.
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Any drilling or mining would require resource consents, and the company would need to negotiate access rights with landowners in the area and the Department of Conservation, as part of the area is under DoC stewardship, and consult Maori.
"Resource consents"? "Consult Maori"? Surely, readers think, the Government would expedite extraction of such a valuable resource. After all - extracting and exporting gold is easy money for the Crown, and at least part of the area is controlled by DoC.

Posted by Antarctic Lemur | 9/28/2005 11:50:00 AM

7 Comments:

Blogger darren said...

And exporting gold might do wonders for the trade deficit.

9/28/2005 12:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You mean you want to see something done to improve the economy? That would go against everything the flat earthers stand for
gd

9/28/2005 01:17:00 PM  
Blogger waymad said...

Gold, of course, is a well-known taonga. And those taniwha that guard it - you wouldn't believe how much dog chow they can get through in just one week. So, send Money. Now. Or else.....

Sigh. Tribalism and Superstition: 1. Sanity: nil.

9/28/2005 05:34:00 PM  
Blogger Tane said...

Well gold mining can be extremely polluting. Do a google search on 'heap leach mining' to get some idea of what can be involved.

Now that technique may not be required in this case; from the sounds of it the ore is of a high enough quality to not need cyanide tipped all over it. But even if it doesn't, conventional mining techniques are destructive and polluting. As a society, we need to weigh up the costs and benefits of it before we yell 'Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!'

Gold is good, I love it. But we shouldn't be prepared to get it at any price.

9/28/2005 05:36:00 PM  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

"Heap leach mining" has nothing to do with the type of gold deposit mentioned in that article. You might as well be relating radioactive material used in Hospitals to enriched uranium. That's how far off the mark you are.

Most gold deposits in NZ are of the 'epithermal' type, or derivative alluvial gold (ie stream deposits) created by the erosion of epithermal sources.

The University of Otago has a good summary on epithermal deposits in NZ, though it focusses primarily on the North Island:
http://www.otago.ac.nz/geology/features/metals/epithermal.html

What you said is nothing more than scaremongering, plain and simple.

9/28/2005 06:03:00 PM  
Blogger Psycho Milt said...

Good luck to 'em, hope they strike it rich. But there are few sights less edifying than a govt trampling all over its own laws for the sake of gold. If they were to brush aside the RMA and their Treaty obligations, why not the property owners' rights regarding access?

9/28/2005 09:54:00 PM  
Blogger Tane said...

Good on ya AL, go straight for the jugular. Hey, I might be wrong, I admit it, but after re-reading what I've written, I can't see how you can say I'm scaremongering.

I raised the issue of heap leach mining, and then added "Now that technique may not be required in this case". Is this what got you going? If so, you should see a dermatologist, as you may have a very thin skin.

After I talked about heap leaching, you answered my point with a good one about derivative alluvial gold deposits. So far you're the winner in this debate.

Where you lose it is where you play the man, and not the ball. Flame wars are pointless, so in future, why don't you attack my arguements, and leave me alone. I don't give a toss about the abuse, it's just that it distracts from the discussion. So shall we call a truce and return to the issue of gold mining?

Now, can you tell me that other gold mining techniques are not polluting, and therefore should not be subject to a resource consent? Can you tell me there will be no adverse effects on other landowners? I look forward to your well reasoned and thoughtful insights.

Cheers.

9/28/2005 09:56:00 PM  

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