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Thursday, August 18, 2005

DomPost comes out for the thugs

I'll be damned if I know anyone in the Real World who doesn't think a person should have the legal right to defend themselves. The only people I've come across who think the Police should handle everything were at University (odd, as many smoked pot...) or online in the leftwing NZ blogs (probably Uni students anyway).

So Act suggests what everyone wants, ie the right to proportionate defence of oneself and one's property, and what is the DomPost's headline?

"ACT Party accused of promoting vigilante action"

Which is a quote from the Incompetent-in-Chief himself, George Hawkins.

The news is just a little leftwing political game to the DomPost. No need to report the unbiased facts.

Now I recently had some drugged out loser kick in the trellis gate of my porch. He did this intentionally while I was standing on the other side of it. He did this because a flatmate and myself confronted him checking car doors on our street to see if they were unlocked. Uppermost in my mind at the time was the fact we couldn't do anything to this thug, because the cops would likely charge us with assault. I didn't particular want to be charged that evening, so instead I called 111. The Police took 10 minutes to respond, despite the fact I live at most a 5 minute drive from the central Police station in downtown Auckland. By then the thug was long gone.

The path of George Hawkins and the Labour Party will inevitably lead to thugs ruling the streets. The Act Party's policy would let us rule the streets again. It's a simple choice really.
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Posted by Antarctic Lemur | 8/18/2005 02:21:00 PM


Blogger Keith said...

In a lot of places, thugs already rule the streets. The question is, how to take them back.

8/18/2005 03:17:00 PM  
Blogger reid said...

Everyone says the same thing, and keep saying it, but nothing changes, and everyone knows the answers, but nothing changes. Govts change, firstly Labour, then National, then Labour again. Problem keeps rising, everyone knows the solutions, but nothing changes.

The problem is there is decreasing levels of love and respect for one's neighbour. (Often because the crims have no like feelings for themselves because their parents were ignorant nasty fools.)

Is not the solution obvious? Broken windows. Target the small minority who commit 90% and don't stop targetting them until they are all inside or they stop it. Ensure those parents who can't bring up their kids with love and self-discipline get identified and interfered with until they either learn or they lose their kids because the're not qualified/don't want to, perform that most important social role. Make sure the courts increase the tariffs across the board and get rid of parole and make people serve their full sentence. Have spartan but non-violent prisons (use CCTV all over) where work is required. If you don't work when you're able to, then you don't get that day deducted from time served. Accept that for some crimes, prisoners will never get out and will die behind bars. It's not freaking rocket science.

There is a theory that lefties want to let it get worse so people have to turn to the state for help (the bigger the problem, the bigger the govt response has to be). That doesn't explain why the Nats never addressed it last time. It's like there's no will cause "everyone's a victim." ACT's the only one who sees the fallacy behind that view.

8/18/2005 06:45:00 PM  
Blogger Keith said...

reid, when it comes to law and order policies, the Nats are just LabourLite.

I can't find a lot to disagree with (!) about your ideas on tougher prisons and sentencing, but the urgent thing right now is to empower law-abiding people to protect themselves. You made no mention of that in your comment, yet it's crucial. I lived in the Far North for some time, and farmers there were targeted by thieves constantly, yet police response times were hopeless. A person should be able to shoot thieves without automatically becoming a victim of the justice system as well. And home-invaders should be met with lethal force. A few examples of thugs breaking into people's homes and getting a round of .357 between the eyes for their trouble would sure as hell discourage the others.
In short, our self-protecytion should be our responsibility and our right. If the state can't do it then it should get out of the way of those who will.

8/18/2005 07:20:00 PM  
Blogger reid said...

I agree with the right to aggressive self-defence Keith, especially in these days of increasing brutality violence even against those obviously unable to defend themselves.

I forgot to mention that I would also like to see, were parole retained, the riskiest parolees being setup in residence next door to each member of the parole board.

Also applicable for all criminal judges - they get to live next door to their riskiest offender to whom they've extended leniency.

I wonder how long it would take for the parole and criminal legislation to be applied as Parliament intended?

8/18/2005 09:55:00 PM  
Blogger Keith said...

lololol! love it! A dose of the Real World for judges and parole board members. :o)

8/18/2005 10:02:00 PM  

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