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Tuesday, August 16, 2005

Awatere Huata

'She Lied to Prebble,' screams the indignant Herald. (The same rag seems disinterested in a blatantly corrupt and venal co-leader of the Greens.)

I wouldn't be surprised if she is aquitted of fraud. Reports so far of her cross examination seem to focus bizarrely on whether or not she told a few porkies to Richard Prebble. Hardly the stuff of fraud or perversion of justice. Why has a day in the court been wasted on these non issues? Her answers seemed enttirely plausible and reasonable.

There will be many red faces within ACT and the blogmentators who long ago condemned her as guilty.

I will die laughing if she is aquitted.
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Posted by Adolf Fiinkensein | 8/16/2005 07:53:00 PM

10 Comments:

Blogger tincanman said...

Careful with the laughing thing, Jordan might call you on that one and then tactfully reverse it :)

8/16/2005 08:34:00 PM  
Blogger Murray said...

Promise?

8/16/2005 09:18:00 PM  
Blogger Tane said...

"The same rag seems disinterested in a blatantly corrupt and venal co-leader of the Greens."

Are you still banging on about those Windflow shares? I bought shares in this company at the same time as Jeanette, and I can tell you, it was (and remains) a huge gamble. It might pay off, but it might also mean I kiss thousands of dollars good-bye. But the risk was and is worth it, as it meant I was investing in a New Zealand company, a New Zealand manufacturer and a renewable energy source. All of these things I believe in. Funnily enough, JF and the Greens believe in them too.

They don't believe in coal fired plants, they don't believe in more environmentally damaging hydro schemes (and yes, dams do damage the environment). It is entirely consistent that the Greens own shares in Windflow, and that they oppose Project Aqua and the like.

Can you explain to me how the Green's Windflow shares will gain in value if the 500,000 solar heaters are installed, in line with Green policy......?

JF should probably stand down from her committee seats, to avoid this conflict of interest, but at this stage it is a looooong way from venal and corrupt.

8/17/2005 09:13:00 AM  
Blogger Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Tane, 'JF should probably stand down...' What a grudging admission of wrong doing. Why has she not already done so? That's the point. It's the failure to fess up which in my view amounts to corruption. She and you both stand to make a fortune if you can persuade the Gummint to back windfarms but you and she chose not to disclose that information.

8/17/2005 11:15:00 AM  
Blogger Tane said...

G'day Adolf,

When did she not 'fess up'? She's been open about these shares for years, the Greens issued a press release in 2001, and it was also in the NBR at the time. Her name is in the company documents from 2002 as a shareholder. Short of tattooing it on her forehead, there was little else she could do to be more public.

The concept that she abuses her position to make a few bucks is ludicrous. Yes she has used her position on various committees to attack projects she disagrees with. This is consistent with her long stated views. For better or worse, it does not contravene Parliament rules. If it does, then she should, and likely will, stand down from whatever committee shes on.

Also, how can we make a fortune if windfarms go ahead? Do you think that Windflow is the only turbine company in the world? Unfortunatley for my dreams of unlimited wealth, it's not. Meridian is planning on using Danish turbines at Makara, while the ones already erected throughout NZ are of foreign manufacture too. Windflow only has 1 turbine erected at present, a prototype at Gebbies Pass. They plan to build more, but will still only be a part-player in the market, not the monopoly that will allow me to cash in and buy myself a Pacific Island somewhere.

Sorry mate, but this is a storm in a teacup, dished up by Ms Coddington who clearly has no idea on what she's talking about. Have a chat to ZenTiger, he went over to the FrogBlog to discuss the issue and ended up talking about birdstrike.

Sorry, no scandal here. Move along now, nothing to see.....

8/17/2005 11:29:00 AM  
Blogger jack said...

the point that you miss Tane, is that she would use her position to oppose my plans for a ringroaded rail system on the westcoast-southland for a new steel mill and the a coal/oil fired 1000kw generator, and yet there is no such opposition to the rapid expansion of expensive, ugly, noisy, land inefficient, bird killing turbines.

8/17/2005 11:43:00 AM  
Blogger Tane said...

OK Jack, fair point.

For starters though, this is not 'venal and corrupt'. You can argue that it's many things, but not that it's corrupt. As for opposing your plans, this is her right and responsibility. If you don't like her actions, vote for someone else, as is your right and responsibility.

Secondly, Greens oppose coal because it is the dirtiest fuel we use, especially in climate change terms. We can argue about that too, but until someone gives me some damn good evidence I'm sticking to my view that coal is not a good energy source. Maybe when the oil runs short......

Us Greens don't love wind turbines in themselves, but we do realise that they're the best choice we have left for generating electricity. Coal, solar, natural gas, hydro, all have problems. Wind is the best of a bad bunch. Yes, it kills birds, but only a fraction compared to cars and cats. This can be reduced by proper siting of the turbines. So can the noise and visual pollution.

The time is on us soon to make a choice. Ugly turbines, polluting coal plants, imported natural gas or cold showers.

8/17/2005 12:07:00 PM  
Blogger ZenTiger said...

Tane, I was talking about bird strike, because it was an issue I was unaware of, and it was nice getting a bit more detail. The summary of that - it is vital to take it into consideration, but not a show stopper.

There's not really much more to say about JF chairing a committee where she is seen to have competing interests. It's standard insider trading issues. I'm really just waiting to see how it pans out. I don't disagree with your overall point, but it would not be good for the Wind farm companies chances to be hampered by public misconceptions over JF's role. I'd almost be expecting them to beg JF and Rod to sell their shares....

8/17/2005 12:07:00 PM  
Blogger ZenTiger said...

POLICE: Wind farm company's (not companies) chances...

8/17/2005 12:09:00 PM  
Blogger Tane said...

ZenTiger,

I think you're right. If it looks like this issue is either going to cause the Greens real damage, threaten the progress of the wind industry or give grounds for concern about corruption, then the Greens should either sell their shares or step down from positions of conflict.

I guess we wait to see how it all pans out. If nothing else, Ms Coddington will hopefully have made the Greens check themselves to make sure they're acting legally and ethically.

8/17/2005 12:16:00 PM  

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