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Thursday, July 28, 2005

How to create Socialist Man

Man's nature is reformable, that as time goes by it shall be possible to create Socialist Man, and that Socialist Man shall be capable of being eventually so improved that he can be a member of Communist Society. In order to achieve this, what is important is to protect the child from detrimental influences, and the detrimental influences stem mainly from the Family. Consequently you have to, at least, supervise the Family closely, so that it becomes the ultimate instrument of the State Power. This is the basic thinking. But it is also part of this that if the family happens to peddle the wrong message that is not in harmony with that of the State Power, then you have to deprive the family of that influence. The simplest way to do this is by taking the child into public care, or also by preventing the situation from occurring by seeing to it that the family influence remains as little as possible. The less number of hours and minutes that people spend together in the family, the less chance there is that the evil wrongful influence is exercised that entails the unhappy consequences.
From a lecture in Sweden in the 1960's on The Welfare State and it's aims. Sweden is far more advanced down the Socialist track than New Zealand is and we do aim to be like them. Well at least H1 does and it looks like Sue B does too.

It's a multi-pronged attack. Keep taxes high. Ensure both parents have to work so that the children can be influenced in state run institutions. If the parents still manage to exert wrongful influence, then enact plan two, removal of the child. All of this to ensure the creation of Socialist Man in the future. Greg Stephens did say on his now dead blog that he didn't expect a communist society to be created overnight, that it could take a couple of centuries.
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Posted by Lucia Maria | 7/28/2005 05:50:00 pm

13 Comments:

Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

Well maybe they can have Earth and ruin it, and I'll start my United States of Mars without them.

I'm glad we have you onboard Lucyna. I used to write off western socialists as being merely confused and/or ignorant. Now I realise many of the leading socialist lights have a very firm ideology and matching objectives they are pursuing, and the only thing standing in their way is the middle class. And thank capitalism for that.

7/28/2005 05:57:00 pm  
Blogger Lucyna said...

Thanks, AL. I'm just horrified at how methodical they are. I used to think they were stupid, but no, there is a very real method to their madness.

7/28/2005 06:03:00 pm  
Blogger Ackers1 said...

Brilliant analysis lucyna. NZ is in good hands with such staunch defenders of the capitalist ethos. I particularly like the bit about keeping taxes high so both parents have to work and the State gets to take control of the kids. It must be tough surrounded by these conniving methodical socialists. Funny thing is I just spent the weekend back in NZ amongst them. Middle class to the core, both parents working, kids seemed to be pretty happy but I could be wrong. They are planning to vote Labour despite their misgivings about some of the things that have been happening recently. I didn't realise these people were so dangerous. I must remember to pay more attention next time.

7/28/2005 06:32:00 pm  
Blogger vanzyl said...

I am not a conspiracy theorist. It is just that if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and sleeps with other ducks, it probably will not be a cat.
Ask yourself just what H1 has achieved over the last 4 to 6 years. And I am not talking about the policies etc. I am talking about long term ideology. She has set up all the ducks and they are all in a row.
1) Gov general - in H1 pocket.
2) Speaker - H1
3) Millitary -in H1 pocket
4) Police ditto
5) The only external control factor - Privvy council - removed
6) The supreme court - in H1 pocket ( she might have screwed up here)
7) The budget -at H1 total control to the extent that the Min of Fin can "hide" 1.9 bil from us
8) and therefore the electorate that can be bought, because we have had the shit kicked out of us so many times (read 2 referenda that was not acted on because we know nothing...) that as soon as a bit of money is offered..... look at the polls in the next few weeks.

What am I getting at? a socialist trained to become a good communist, happy with a one party state.
And that my friends is where this will go.

And before you die laughing because we are so intelligent and clever as to never let it happen, I remind you that Germany had more significant artists, philosophers, scientists, industrialists and academics than any other nation when a painter with a silly mo took it over.

And I don't want to hear the bullshit of:"if they try that... or if my family is threatened I'll...." Listen we let bastards ruin our children's life with drugs... and what have we done?
We moan about boy racers and people have died.... and what have we done?
They pissed all over our vote... the one thing that makes us free... when we asked 97% of us for less politicians and tougher sentences.

Sure I may be deluded... see reds under the beds... but if I told you 8 years ago that a prime minister would commit fraud and not be pinged in NZ you would have laughed at me.
If I told you that a Labour prime minister would screw the workers and turn her back on them, leaving them to face criminal charges as she has the cops who were doing what they were told, you would have measured me for a jacket, and not an evening jacket either.

The fact that the minister of finance can hide up to 1.9 bil should make you think. Long and hard. And if they are allowed to continue I am going to apply for the job of getting rid of the sparrows.

7/28/2005 06:35:00 pm  
Blogger Lucyna said...

Ackers1, how to create socialist man is not written by me. It's translated from Swedish by Professor emeritus Jacob W.F. Sundberg, from a speech given in the 60's in Sweden right before a whole lot of very strange family law changes. Which gives us the position that Sweden is in today.

7/28/2005 06:53:00 pm  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

Ahh, one of the Socialist Men turns up to deny the obvious.

I take with a grain of salt someone like Ackers, staunch reader and defender of The Nation and related extreme Socialist publications, describing any of his friends as 'middle class'.

7/28/2005 06:55:00 pm  
Blogger Ackers1 said...

Yes vanzyl the only conclusion on available evidence is that you are completely delusiuonal. My advice is a 1 way ticket out of the country before the red hand of communism descends and snuffs out the rest of your common sense.

7/28/2005 06:58:00 pm  
Blogger Ackers1 said...

So how would you define 'middle class' AL? If it's not my family and friends, indeed myself - New Zealanders to a core then there must be some new defintion floating around.

7/28/2005 07:00:00 pm  
Blogger ZenTiger said...

Gee, I come from a middle class family Ackers1. Both parents are working. Kids happy. We do the best we can and all that. But do I want to sit back and become more like Sweden?

Ave you been following the s59 debate, and read a lot of the links we have provided, or is it a case of whatever laws are being passed are for the best?

This is not a conspiracy theory of the grand scope you seemingly imagine. This is about hard working people promoting an ideology that encompasses laws to match aims. Those hard-working people happen to form small groups of people in a position to provide major influence over special interest groups.

Do you imagine when Bill Gates sets out to make an impression on the world, it just fell into his lap? Or was the dedication, business strategies, wheeling and dealing a significant factor in his success.

People can have intense economic or business oriented aims, but you laugh of people who might have political aims and operate with the same breadth of success, the same passion and drive?

If something doesn't fit well with your view of the world, it seems you want to simply call it a conspiracy theory.

With one happy unconcerned family. I understand there were millions of happy families in Stalin's Russia. There were also more than 10 million dead ones.

But that can never happen again? Especially not in NZ? Not now, not in 10 years and not in 20 years?

Always some-one else, somewhere else.

This doesn't have to be a conspiracy for it to be about the consequences of bad laws, flawed ideology and general apathy from the public.

7/28/2005 07:02:00 pm  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

Middle class: not super-rich, but not poor. Economically independent of Government, required to work for a living and/or owns a small business. Probably owns house, with debt or not, rather than renting. No political power or social influence by him/herself.

Definitions differ, of course.

7/28/2005 07:09:00 pm  
Blogger vanzyl said...

Akers1 I am an african (no Not south African) that have made my home here for the last 15 years. I believe you live overseas..... so i humbly say: piss of tosser your opinion does not matter here. Once you live here fair enough.

7/28/2005 07:22:00 pm  
Blogger Chris said...

I don't want us to be like Sweden, I want us to be like Hong Kong.

7/28/2005 07:33:00 pm  
Blogger Keith said...

vanzyl--what you said. Exactly.

7/28/2005 07:43:00 pm  

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