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Tuesday, May 17, 2005

Should Abu-Pope have it if he doesn't get it?

Antarctic Lemur raises a good point when discussing if Benson-Pope should keep his job over this affair. Does it come to this? Let's start from disbelief:

Graham Capill was *such* a nice man. I cannot for one moment believe he could be a child molester. It comes as a complete shock to me. He always seemed so against it. Maybe he's been framed.

Benson-Pope was *such* a nice man, and a positive role model for many people. It comes as a complete shock to me. I am sure it was an isolated one-off incident. And everyone did this sort of thing didn't they? It was 20 years ago after all. Let the man have his peace. I am sure he wouldn't do that sort of thing now.
[Zen Tiger, this morning]
Think about this people: Chances are the abused students would not have gone on radio, if Abu-Pope had owned up to it. Listen to them. It was his categoric denials that roused them into action.

I'd have a lot more respect for him if he said he regretted that incident and apologised. "Its haunted him. He learned from it."

No, he denied it categorically. The Labour spin machine is too. It has now moved into the standard rapist defence: "the victim is a liar, slut, dressed for it, asked for it, was too cheeky" line. Maybe these guys are making it up? Yeah right.

Benson-Pope's action/reaction to the abuse shows a complete inability to face up to what he did was wrong. Caning was acceptable practice back then, child abuse never was. It still isn't.

The public can tell the difference between a disciplinary whack and taping hands to a desk and stuffing a tennis ball in a kids mouth.

I've had a teacher like that before. I'm glad to say, he was in the vast minority of all of the teachers I had. However, the system allowed him to determine the degree of punishment.

Another school I went to (years earlier than his time) forbade the teacher from administering punishment, and insisted the student was sent to the principals office, so the punishment could be judged and meted out by another person not emotionally involved in the situation. Same principle of the justice system.

This is what you get when your rules are not founded on principle. Abu-Pope has been found lacking in this subject, and does not deserve the position the Labour Party has entrusted him to.

He will be unable to formulate sound policy in this area until he can see what he has done wrong. Therefore, he is the weakest link. Good-bye.

Posted by ZenTiger | 5/17/2005 12:35:00 pm


Blogger Berend de Boer said...

I fully agree Zen Tiger. It's disgusting seeing the lefties attacking the messenger or the victims.

Abu Pope fell on his own sword. Goodbye.

5/17/2005 01:03:00 pm  
Blogger t selwyn said...

Since it involves a gag and the whole domination angle, perhaps "gimp-gate" might be an appropriate title.

5/17/2005 01:10:00 pm  
Blogger Paul said...

I am appalled by the Teachers Council, read union, coming out and saying the DBP thing should have been raised with them and not in Parliament (sorry don't have a link, heard it in the car). Err hello comrades, the issue is about misleading the House, not about teacher business nor about union politics nor unions thinly attempting to take the heat off their poly mates.

5/17/2005 09:44:00 pm  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

You guys should see About Town. Now I know they're probably kids, but that sort of going on is not what I want to see coming from future Labourites.

5/17/2005 10:58:00 pm  
Blogger span said...

i haven't been in a position to follow all this DBP thing in detail, but the Teachers' Council does actually have a role - it deals with complaints from parents, colleagues, the community, anyone really, regarding the conduct of teachers and strikes them off if they are deemed unsuitable to be teachers. And the type of conduct that is unbecoming and results in deregistration is much lower than a criminal standard (or even a criminal act). The TC is quite separate from the union although I think there are union reps on it (not a majority).

I'm not saying there may not be an issue around the Privileges Committee too, or the police for that matter, but there is definitely a role for the Teachers Council - if he is still registered to teach, or if he tried to register in the future, this would be raised. It would be interesting to see if there were any complaints raised with the TC regarding DBP during his teaching years.

5/17/2005 11:20:00 pm  

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