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Monday, May 30, 2005

French people vote against EU constitution, but where's German democracy?

55% of French voted against the EU constitution, pretty much sinking the whole fantasy of a European Federation for a couple of years, if not ever.

But the reason I'm posting on this is the nature of the German vote.

Get this: The constitution was only voted on by members of the German Bundestag. 95.8% of them voted for it.

Can you imagine the uproar in New Zealand if Parliament voted to make us part of an enlarged Australia without first consulting the people?

Davids Medienkritik: The French Said "NON"

UPDATE: To illustrate how completely the constitution was rejected by French voters, here's a map of electorate results courtesy of Le Monde (hat-tip Powerline):

French Referendum on European Constitution

Posted by Antarctic Lemur | 5/30/2005 04:30:00 pm


Blogger Lucia Maria said...

Just goes to show how far down the socialist path the Germans are. Now that I've said that.... OMG!!!!

5/30/2005 04:32:00 pm  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

I get a sense of foreboding whenever I read Medienkritik's blog.

5/30/2005 04:36:00 pm  
Blogger Ronnie Horesh said...

The thing is, a European Union without France and its emotional insecurities would work very well. For a start, they would have one official language - English. Then they could dismantle the Common Agricultural Policy and other corrupt protectionist scams. They could let consumers decide whether they wanted to buy cheap food, clothing etc.

5/30/2005 05:00:00 pm  
Blogger ZenTiger said...

Good point Ronnie, and also very funny just thinking about it.

I can see the French protests now "We were in the EU and now we are unemployed from even that".

Wasn't it the French that came up with the saying "Let them eat gateau?

5/30/2005 07:23:00 pm  
Blogger Ackers1 said...

German 'democracy' would clearly have delivered a yes to the EU constitution. The opinion polls were reasonably aligned with how their representatives voted (59% in favour, 15% oposed and 26% undecided) And the reasons for the French vote were pretty much about 'leftist' concerns about preserving the types of social and political condtions that are anathema to the political views of posters on this blog.

I suspect nothing much will change but clearly the reality of an enlarged European Union is on ice for the forseeable future.

5/30/2005 08:50:00 pm  
Blogger Antarctic Lemur said...

I'm not entirely sure why you surrounded democracy in scare quotes - do you not think major constitutional changes should be determined by the people?

We'll never know what Germans thought on the matter now as they didn't get the chance to deliver their own verdict.

And the 'reality' of an enlarged EU has been around for several years now. The proposed Constitution gives EU Commissioners and MP's far more ability to interfere in areas of life previously considered the role of national European Governments.

Unlike the US constitution, it is not a document clearly outlining the relationship between citizens and Government powers. It's 140 (?) pages of impenetrable bureaucratize making present EU policies permanent.

5/30/2005 08:59:00 pm  

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